Legislature(2021 - 2022)BARNES 124

05/03/2022 08:00 AM House COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS

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08:04:19 AM Start
08:04:57 AM HR12
08:21:56 AM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
*+ HR 12 MARINE DEBRIS FOUNDATION HQ IN ALASKA TELECONFERENCED
Moved HR 12 Out of Committee
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled TELECONFERENCED
                    ALASKA STATE LEGISLATURE                                                                                  
    HOUSE COMMUNITY AND REGIONAL AFFAIRS STANDING COMMITTEE                                                                   
                          May 3, 2022                                                                                           
                           8:04 a.m.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Sara Hannan, Co-Chair                                                                                            
Representative Calvin Schrage, Co-Chair                                                                                         
Representative Josiah Patkotak, Vice Chair                                                                                      
Representative Harriet Drummond                                                                                                 
Representative Ken McCarty                                                                                                      
Representative Kevin McCabe                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
Representative Mike Prax                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE RESOLUTION NO. 12                                                                                                         
Urging the Marine Debris Foundation to locate its headquarters                                                                  
in the state.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
     - MOVED HR 12 OUT OF COMMITTEE                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
PREVIOUS COMMITTEE ACTION                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
BILL: HR  12                                                                                                                  
SHORT TITLE: MARINE DEBRIS FOUNDATION HQ IN ALASKA                                                                              
SPONSOR(s): COMMUNITY & REGIONAL AFFAIRS                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
04/29/22       (H)       READ THE FIRST TIME - REFERRALS                                                                        
04/29/22       (H)       CRA                                                                                                    
05/03/22       (H)       CRA AT 8:00 AM BARNES 124                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JONATHAN KRIESS-TOMKINS                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  As prime sponsor, presented HR 12.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
XANNIE BORSETH, Staff                                                                                                           
Representative Jonathan Kreiss-Tomkins                                                                                          
Alaska State Legislature                                                                                                        
Juneau, Alaska                                                                                                                  
POSITION STATEMENT:  Answered questions  during the hearing on HR
12 on behalf of Representative Kreiss-Tomkins, prime sponsor.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
ACTION NARRATIVE                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:04:19 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR CALVIN  SCHRAGE called the House  Community and Regional                                                             
Affairs  Standing  Committee  meeting   to  order  at  8:04  a.m.                                                               
Representatives McCarthy,  Drummond, McCabe, Hannan,  and Schrage                                                               
were  present at  the call  to order.   Representatives  Patkotak                                                               
arrived as the meeting was in progress.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
          HR 12-MARINE DEBRIS FOUNDATION HQ IN ALASKA                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:04:57 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCHRAGE announced that the  only order of business would                                                               
be HOUSE RESOLUTION  NO. 12, Urging the  Marine Debris Foundation                                                               
to locate its headquarters in the state.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
8:05:15 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE    JONATHAN     KRIESS-TOMKINS,    Alaska    State                                                               
Legislature, as prime  sponsor, presented HR 12,  which urges the                                                               
Marine Debris Foundation to locate  its headquarters in the state                                                               
of Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND   asked  how  the  title   shoreline  is                                                               
measured.      She  observed   that   the   title  shoreline   is                                                               
approximately 14,000 more miles than the coastline.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:07:06 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
XANNIE BORSETH,  Staff, Representative Jonathan  Kreiss- Tomkins,                                                               
Alaska  State Legislature,  on behalf  of Representative  Kreiss-                                                               
Tomkins, prime  sponsor of  HR 12,  explained that  difference is                                                               
that the  contour outline - or  boundary of the coast  - is known                                                               
as the coastline,  whereas the shoreline is  the boundary between                                                               
the land  and the  water and therefore,  dependent on  the tides.                                                               
She offered  to simplify the  language to "shoreline" if  it were                                                               
the will of the committee.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND surmised  that  it must  be  a low  tide                                                               
measurement  because it  puts [the  title shoreline]  out further                                                               
from the coast.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MS. BORSETH agreed.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:07:52 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  suggested that  this was  demonstrative of                                                               
the amount  of shore space  there is  to clean up  marine debris.                                                               
He expressed  his interest in  any bill that requires  people who                                                               
work in the state of Alaska to live in the state of Alaska.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR SCHRAGE shared an example  of marine waste washing up on                                                               
Alaska's  shores  from  the  tsunami  in Japan.    He  noted  the                                                               
importance  of not  only  the  work, but  of  [the Marine  Debris                                                               
Foundation] being headquartered in Alaska.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
8:09:38 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY  asked  how  much  debris  is  in  Alaska                                                               
compared to other West Coast locations.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MS. BORSETH offered to follow up with the requested information.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
8:10:29 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN  commented on  the  importance  of having  "both                                                               
those numbers in there."  She  argued that "good" data is hard to                                                               
acquire,  as  much  of  Alaska's  coastline  is  unmonitored  and                                                               
uninhabited.   After  looking up  the Marine  Debris Foundation's                                                               
Board of  Directors, she  observed members  from the  East Coast,                                                               
which can account  for and monitor its coastline.   She discussed                                                               
the variety  of things that can  wash up on shore  unmonitored in                                                               
the  state, such  as dead  whales, for  example, emphasizing  the                                                               
scale and magnitude of Alaska and the North Pacific.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
8:13:24 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  DRUMMOND recalled  that  a  National Oceanic  and                                                               
Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) vessel  was expected to be home                                                               
ported  in Ketchikan,  Alaska,  and she  asked  whether that  was                                                               
accurate.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
8:13:55 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE   KREISS-TOMKINS  responded   that  Representative                                                               
Drummond may  be referring  to the RV  Fairweather, which  was in                                                               
Newport, Oregon, heading to Ketchikan.   He confirmed that it was                                                               
a NOAA asset.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
8:15:36 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  MCCARTY asked  whether the  state is  funding the                                                               
Marine Debris Foundation.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS answered  that  the  state is  not                                                               
funding the foundation.  He noted  it is similar to other private                                                               
foundations that raise their own funds.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE MCCABE  asked whether Alaska has  the most fishing                                                               
boats on  the ocean  that can  observe marine  debris, suggesting                                                               
that that could be a "selling point" for the state.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
8:18:43 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE PATKOTAK  inquired about  the "this copy  shall be                                                               
sent  to" section  and  asked  why it  was  not  included in  the                                                               
resolution.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  KREISS-TOMKINS  shared   his  understanding  that                                                               
House resolutions, in contrast to  joint resolutions, do not have                                                               
the "copies  be sent to" function.   He offered to  readily amend                                                               
the resolution on the House floor if necessary.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
8:20:05 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR HANNAN  said she wants to  ensure that HR 12  is sent to                                                               
people with  some familiarity with  Alaska, who  could understand                                                               
its significance.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
8:21:30 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  HANNAN moved  to report  HR  12 out  of committee  with                                                               
individual  recommendations and  the  accompanying fiscal  notes.                                                               
There being  no objection, HR  12 was  reported out of  the House                                                               
Community and Regional Affairs Standing Committee.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
8:21:56 AM                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
ADJOURNMENT                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
There being no  further business before the  committee, the House                                                               
Community  and Regional  Affairs Standing  Committee meeting  was                                                               
adjourned at [8:22] a.m.                                                                                                        

Document Name Date/Time Subjects
HR 12 version A.PDF HCRA 5/3/2022 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/5/2022 8:00:00 AM
HR 12
HR 12 - Zero Fiscal Note - 5.3.22.pdf HCRA 5/3/2022 8:00:00 AM
HCRA 5/5/2022 8:00:00 AM
HR 12